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July 10, 2007

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A little bird

I also tried out MetroFi a couple of times and it sucked. Personal Telco is a much better way to go. Thanks for the reminder!

Hawthorne

What you said, right on.

Hilarious that you were linked to by Bojack. Separated at birth? ;)

no one in particular

FWIW, the education numbers only add up to 90%, so presumably the other 10% are "no college".

b!X

"MetroFi was to be Internet access for everyone. Instead, it's Internet access for everyone that has the patience to wait for Web pages to crawl onto their screen, sandwiched between and surrounded by lucrative advertisements."

Um, well, no. MetroFi was always going to be "Internet access for everyone that has the patience to wait for Web pages to crawl onto their screen, sandwiched between and surrounded by lucrative advertisements".

We knew that going in, when the city chose them over the competing bidders. It's why I didn't support them.

Funnily enough, down at East Bank Saloon recently, I could not for the life of me get the MetroFi link to work. But the VeriLAN network in the area? Flawless and fast.

VeriLAN was not chosen, although it was a competing bidder.

John Fairplay

I hate to break it to you, but there's no such thing as "free" Wi-Fi. It's going to cost someone something if Portland persists in this nonsense, so be sure and remember who it will probably be - the taxpayers, who get no benefit but all the costs - in your prayers.

Brian

The commenter above is right - there's no such thing as free wifi. Either advertisers or the City pays. If Portland wants free public internet access, the taxpayers need to pony up. The City isn't going to get the service they want unless they pay for it themselves.

So the question becomes is free public wifi a higher priority than funding jail beds, keeping police precincts open, etc?

Rusty

I talked a lot about Metro-Fi back when I was a blogger at the Portland Metroblog (if you're interested, you can read them at http://portland.metblogs.com , just type "metro-fi" into the search box).

I never focussed on the ad-based content or the greed of the investors because, frankly, my primary issue is that, at least until recently, I've never been able to get reliable access, even within line-of-sight of a node. And a lot of people have the same issue.

Even now, I can't get access to the node that's 50' from my house, even when I'm parked under it's phone pole.

Some areas of town have it better. I wonder if that's by design?

billbarstad

I'm surprised that MetroFi hasn't blocked this page!

dyspeptic

Totally agree that we should be supporting Personal Telco Project. MetroFi will go the way of the dinos, because its service stinks and its business model is evil. What is most evil about the whole thing, though, is that until the city council is willing to admit what a total stinker this thing is, real municipal wi-fi will be out of reach.

Michael Weinberg

Hi Steve et al. Thanks for the shout outs to Personal Telco. I'm sure everyone involved appreciates the recognition. I would like to make clear that while Steve is not grinding and ax for us, we also do not have an ax to grind over the MetroFi thing.

Personal Telco has been around for years, and while we were likely a part of the inspiration for the city's wireless RFP, we certainly didn't have any interest in trying to take it on.

We'll continue to teach and learn all we can about community built networks, and while our volunteers may point out obvious flaws with other wireless deployments along the way, we're focused on the greater good of empowering Portland's residents to establish their own communication options, and not worrying too much about commercial outfits that try to make a buck in Portland.

That being said, we really would love your support. We have monthly meetings the last Wednesday of every month (except December), at the Urban Grind at NE Oregon and 22nd Ave. They start between 6 and 6:30, and it's a great way to meet the people behind Personal Telco and find out how you can help. You can also contact us via our website, www.personaltelco.net.

Thanks for your support!

Michael Weinberg
Personal Telco Spokesperson

Steve

[Editor: I wrote this comment and posted it before seeing Michael's comment above as they were submitted almost simultaneously.]

Thanks for stopping by and for your comments. What I should have said in my post is that I know that nothing is free. That's why I've donated to Personal Telco on a number of occasions. I think Personal Telco could cover Portland with donations alone, including continuing support from companies like Easystreet.

I don't know the whole story behind Personal Telco bidding for the citywide wireless project (and don't claim that this is an exhaustively researched piece - it's a personal opinion piece based on my own experience and what I've heard from others), but I do know that they're local, have been around for years, and have done a hell of a lot with very little. And I don't think any of them have quit their day jobs. It's pretty much a labor of love. I'd be perfectly happy with the city getting behind them and compensating them for rolling this out citywide and I have to think - still based on personal experience - that they'd do a far, far better job than MetroFi.

Will Von Wizzlepig

I agree it would be nice to have a good wi-fi connection anywhere I went (even moreso if I actually left my house with my wireless laptop), however, I think this is an exercise in expectations.

We hear the 'city' is rolling out city-wide 'free' wi-fi. My first reaction is: what the hell does the city need to do that for?

In the end, the fact that the city is involved at all is basically meaningless. Some businessmen somewhere needed an 'in' to get their crappy service stuck up on all the city's lightpoles in downtown Portland, and by giving 'the city' a reach-around somewhere else (I'm sure), they were able to convince 'the city' to cooperate.

I know this is just a re-wording of the other posts, but the angle is important. Giant corporations steamrolled the city into promoting their garbage product which without city endorsement could not have been put up on all the city lightpoles. When it all goes down the drain a few years from now and the robber-baron CEOs have cleaned out all the excess cash they drummed up, The Personal Telco Project (unaffiliated, but a kindred spirit) will still be there for us.

Russell Senior

Just to clarify, the Personal Telco Project was *not* a bidder on the Unwire Portland RFP.

Also, the extent to which PTP "will still be there for us" will be determined by how involved people in the community become. PTP is not necessarily a bottomless well of goodwill to be tapped, unless people help to keep it that way. Get involved.

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